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Rob Peladeau: “Behaviorist Dog Trainer” | Talks at Google



Behaviorist dog trainer Rob Peladeau, of NexGenK9, will be here to share strategies for training your dog.
Rob Peladeau has been training dogs for almost twenty years. Rob specializes in behavior modification/rehabilitation of aggressive/reactive dogs as well as problem solving for unwanted behaviors. Join us for a talk about how a dog learns, the concepts of Marker Training, and behavior modification through counter conditioning.

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39 comments

  1. Very interesting! However there's a point where I disagree, at 37:25, when you say dogs have no "morality" or "guilt". And unless I misunderstood, you sort of contradict yourself when you talk of morality as "beat into our heads as children". Sounds like conditioning, and if it's just that, can't it be taught to dogs too? Not on the same complexity level as humans of course, but still, to some extent.
    Or, taking it the other way around, you say that instead of morality, dogs learn "appeasement, how to turn pressure off". But isn't that essentially the same as the functional role of morality in human societies?
    As for "guilt", it's not always tied to morality. Outside of moral considerations, you can feel guilty just for failing, not being intelligent or strong enough compared to some standard or challenging event (ex. Victim Guilt). So the dog can feel guilt because "I screwed up, I disappointed Master", even if it's just between them and there's no superior, all-encompassing moral code behind it.

    And yeah, I totally get it when you warn multiple times about anthropomorphism. But on that point I got a feeling you over-compensated that with a "mechanization" of the dog's psychology. As you pointed out yourself, they have surprising abilities and should not be underestimated. And as fellow social mammals and intelligent predators, they have a psychological common ground with us, and I'm not so sure "morality" and "guilt" are not in it.

    To illustrate, I want to give two examples:

    About "morality", have you ever seen (there are some videos of that on YT) those situations when there's two dogs snapping at each other, and a third dog intervenes, either putting himself between them, or domineering the one he perceived as "the aggressor"? So, I guess, "appeasing", except it's not in the direct interest of the third dog, and he's taking a risk.
    One video that really "imprinted" on me was of a French trainer trying to cure a fearful young bitch. He exposed her to his "therapeutic dog" Dexie, a dominant yet "fair" Malinois bitch. At first Dexie was running after the fearful bitch, who was fleeing and crying in terror, yet always stopping short of coming down on her. After some time, the fearful bitch "miraculously" began to trust her and play with her.
    Then the trainer introduced his second Malinois bitch, Gunny (submissive to Dexie). And that's when the scene happens: the once fearful bitch, now fooling around like a happy pup, comes nipping at Gunny. Gunny snaps at her. And then Dexie "scolds" Gunny, grabbing her with her front paws and growling at her. So Dexie defended an obviously vulnerable dog she barely knew, against her own pack member. If that's not "moral" behavior, then what is?

    About "guilt", my second example comes from personal experience. When I was a teenager, our family got a Fila Brasileiro bitch in the "Dog SWAT" guarding our relatively big property. If you know the breed, it'll come as no surprise if I tell you she was massive, the most my young self had ever seen. She effortlessly became the dominant, even over our male Dobbie. But with us she was calm, gentle, playful, obedient and very self-confident. Pretty much the perfect dog right out of the box, we'd hit jackpot.
    And it's with her (my parents let me name her, so she was called Ophélie) that I had an enlightening incident. One night I came back from a party, entering the property by myself. The pack, laying by the house, spotted me in the distance, and came barking with Ophélie leading the charge. I wasn't panicking, just walking towards them with a satisfied and amused feeling, thinking "they're doing a good job" and "it's going to be funny when they recognize me and realize their mistake". Call me crazy or a stupid teenager, but I was absolutely confident they would recognize me once they got close enough. And that's what happened. After a second of confusion, they all switched to the usual "Welcome Party" mode.

    All but Ophélie. She was mortified. Tail between her legs, laying low, running away from me as I was trying to comfort her. I'd never seen her so miserable, she usually was such a confident and happy dog. But she was scared of me, as if expecting me to retaliate against the "thought crime" of having wanted to kill me when she didn't know it was me.
    I was sure I did nothing, no yelling in fear or anger, that could have influenced her to behave that way. And to prove it, the other dogs were fine, rejoicing around me, their previous killing intent forgotten already.

    I can't explain her behavior other than with the word "guilt". For some reason, in her own mind , she considered she had done "something wrong" or "failed", even though I didn't and the other dogs didn't. And I had a hard time making her forget about it, though eventually, she came back to her confident and happy self.

  2. This dude contradicts himself so many times, it's just really dissapointing.

  3. Verbosity is a problem here. My dog will run away from this guy

  4. Mmm socialize your puppy with other well socialized puppies, let them play, expose them to different things (sounds, places, smells etc). Unless you're training a dog to be reactive to their environment or stimulus like a working dog which is Samson in the video. By the way, I have a service dog, trained/breed for me and he's friendly don't put your hands on my dog for the same reason I don't ripoff cords to your nanas pacemaker. He is trained to ignore your baby calls but he still is a dog and that is a distraction. Next person that does that will get throat punched by a person with a disability.

  5. Willie Faulkner

    I've trained all 3 of my dogs myself with training games here https://plus.google.com/113357241366992492768/posts/YNuP2AUH4eM
    Very easy and worked wonders

  6. If I had watched the last few minutes of this first, I'd have saved myself 50+ minutes of boredom. I'm trying to learn about my dogs to train them properly and this guy's results speak volumes.

  7. Teaching a dog to sit using food is operant conditioning, not classical conditioning. Classical conditioning is to do with a stimulus, eliciting an automatic response linked to the autonomic nervous system (not a trained response). E.g. salivation/urination/excitation/withdrawal are automatic responses.

  8. Basically everything this guy says goes out the window when you see that his dog pretty much just doesn't listen to him. 🙂

  9. Hеy there. So this is so this is а common misconcccсeрtion рopularized by traditiоnal dog trainers that rely on tools to make life unplеasant when their dog dоes nоt perform as desired. Hеre's a video that will eхplain thе dominance mуth: ==> https://twitter.com/9b7e19512eee5d182/status/822770265151053824

  10. Wow what a shit show. That's your demo dog?

  11. Not an argument

    All you need to know about how good a trainer is is how well trained their dog is. His dog couldnt even hold a down for three seconds. Broke countless commands and was doing whatever really. My 4 month old pup can hold a down in a high distraction environment better and Im literally a first time pet owner. Meanwhile this guy is supposedly a professional? It amazes me how low standards these people have to take this guy serious. Any real dog trainer would mop the floor with him but meanwhile this guy gets to talk at google. What has this world come to lol.

  12. I use treat & praise. Then a variable Treat & praise, praise, Treat & praise, praise. The treat decreases and the praise increases. Every 15th time or so they receive their quarterly cash reward. I have two GSD's. My first, Titan I used this method. It has worked great. My second, Niki, I tried to use just, patience, praise and gently place her in the position. Never Yank and Crank. It was harder & longer for her to learn the behavior. Like you not getting paid for doing a job, she wasn't having it either.  So treat and praise & variable method has worked for me and my clients. I'm gonna stick to it. For basic obedience training. Bottom line, as long as you are not abusing your BFF, you train what suits your goal.

  13. brooke lagendyk

    how come i can not find any other videos of this guy

  14. SpringRoll Wang

    at least he's better than Cesar. But not as good as pryor.

  15. there's only one video of rob that I can find

  16. so do you treat even though there doesn't have to be a behaviour change ?

  17. lillian espinoza

    Your dog is so so Beautiful

  18. Richard Sartain

    Group for aggressive and reactive dog owners: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1404349342956518/

  19. What kind of audience does he have here? Are they mostly scientists or are they lay people with little knowledge of the science involved with animal behavior? I hope they are scientists, because he introduces several words that a layperson may not know by heart.

    **I'm not saying it is difficult to understand the words**, but the context of the words and phrases may give a layperson pause. During that pause, he is already moving on in his lecture.

  20. Good one. how do i correct the behavior like she sleeps in couch which i don't want

  21. Remember that is a working dog. The collar is for protection of public. No matter how well trained the dog is, he needs to be able to call the dog off. Still an animal…

  22. Love to watch different trainers.

  23. This is amazing! It changed the way I interact with my dogs! We really don't consider their own thought process enough and sometimes we reward them for behaviors that we don't even realize. Thank you SO much for this!

  24. Alice Connolley

    rob. dog traîner. and. Animial. behavoirst

  25. Alice Connolley

    rob. dog traîner. and. Animial. behavoirst

  26. bwhahaha "he has a higher motivation" "you are just the most boring person to come back too" and how is that not just like a teenagers rebellious streak?

  27. As soon as someone says 'positive only' to refer to trainers you know they're not completely sure what they're talking about. Then this was demonstrated when he got his dog out.

  28. #Alex Oxford This guy has not earned his mals respect…that's a sign to walk away! @vicky o'connor

  29. #herbo gur I agreed with everything he said and demonstrated except the obvious illustration that he doesn't have the dogs respect; he only has the dogs trust. Establishing trust is a great thing but I believe you need earn both trust and respect. @vicky o'connor

  30. Great video

  31. Awesome video! Great teaching info . I now realize the areas we went wrong and how to correct :)))

  32. Courtney Nicholls

    >> Get the right info, tools and confidence through videos to correct ANY dog behaviour. <<

  33. The dog didn't make him out to be a liar, just a bad judge of the level of the dog's level of learning and maturity.

    It is not reasonable to keep a dog crated for a hour while you ignore him and talk to strangers, and then expect him to be calm and passive UNLESS you specifically train for that behavior.

  34. The argument for early training is valid, but the reasoning is erroneous.

    That a mammal brain is fully developed soon after both is false. Human brains do not complete macro physical development until hormone levels stabilize in late adolescence, neither do dog's. Human babies lack tvhe ability to focus their eyes. Dogs are born with closed ears and eyes, their initial sensations are smell and touch. Dogs auditory complexes and visual cortexes are incomplete at birth and continue to develop for weeks.

    New synaptic connections develop until advance old age or disease stops them.

    That the brain is still developing is precisely why childhood learning is less difficult and more rapid than when older. When exposed to more visual than auditory stimulation, it optimizes for vision. If understimulated it doesn't develop properly. Dogs relative senses of smell, hearing and vision are directly connected to when each of these. becomes active.

  35. Misidentified Karen Pryor as Dr Skinner. Oversimplified positive reinforcement as needing an environment low in distractions with survival dependent on the rewards. Nor is it necessary to take something away for it to be a negative behavior discouraging consequence. e.g. A bonus system can motivate an adequately compensated workforce to better performance better than pay cuts for not improving productivity.

  36. catchme onthewtr

    Good video, I agree to some extent with your information here. I do however have to say that some years ago, hmm 25 or so, I got a free Lab/Shepherd mix, he was about 6 months old at the time. I was no dog expert, I was raised on a farm where we had animals, but never did much real training with them. So this Lab/Sheperd mix I got was amazing. With no training he would help me take laundry to the laundry room, take dishes off the table and place them on the kitchen counter, get my cigarette lighter and bring it to me in another room, hold his tail stiff when walking between the coffee table and sofa when I had a glass of wine sitting on the coffee table and would say watch your tail. I never trained him for any of these things, just asked him to do it! I had a ranch where we rented horses by the hour, my husband would be out fixing fence and hollar over for me to send TG with a hammer, I would give the dog the hammer and say take it to Daddy and off he would go carrying the hammer to dad. I had to round up horses when people came to ride, sometimes I needed to get 6 to 8 or more horses at a time, TG would come with me. I would catch the horses, give two or three lead ropes to him and he would lead the horses back to the stable to be saddled. All of the things he did he was never trained to do, he did what I asked when I asked. He would bring me a note when I was totally out of sight, in fact I would be 1/4 mile away fishing down by the river! My husband would need me back at the stable office and he would give TG a note to bring me. People would wait to see if I showed up, when I would arrive back at the office, they'd ask if the dog had brought me the note. I would pull the note out of my pocket, they were just in awe. So can anyone explain this dog to me. I can even give you names and phone numbers of people that knew this dog to verify this. The dog disappeared while at the ranch one day…never knew what happened to him. So I am hesitant to believe dogs do not understand language. Maybe most of them, but I think there are definitely exceptions, I've seen it…

  37. This guy has not earned his mals respect…that's a sign to walk away!

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